# (3)Dr. Robotnik vs (6)Sin 2005 _source: (3)Dr. Robotnik vs (6)Sin 2005 (revid 88852)_ ## Results Tuesday, May 17th, 2005 ## Ulti's Analysis - **Division:** Triforce Division - **Match \#:** 15 - **Match Date:** Tuesday, May 17th, 2005 - **Vote difference:** 1,918 - **Oracle Expectations:** Dr Robotnik - 53.23% 57 for - 16 against - **GameFAQs Prediction:** Dr Robotnik - 55.51% (13,738 brackets) So, who remembers this post? From: Tai \| Posted: 5/12/2005 8:18:12 PM \| Message Detail I say Sin. He comes from the mighty series that is Final Fantasy. People argue Dr. Robotnik is simply more recognizeable, so he should win. What about Pac-Man? Scorpion? Donkey Kong? Didn't they..all..like..get creamed by Square characters? Man, that must suck. :-( Also, think Crono and Mario. Mario has been in so many more games than Crono that EVERYONE must know who he is. Hell, Mario went to the Finals last year. But, Crono? I've heard he doesn't even talk. I guess all the girls like his hair because it looks like Goku's a little, right? Yet, somehow, he rivals to Mario. If that can happen, any "ugly" character can beat a popular one. Also, Sin comes from the game, FFX, which features Tidus, who beat Shadow last summer. So, what can a mere fat loser do against this Final Fantasy character? People think Sin will be crushed because he's a whale. Well, I guess this means the fat scientist will be CHEW'D UP AND SPIT'D. In this topic, it's simple. Vote for a villian. This was one of the many Tai topics leading up to that match, and virtually all of them were written with the same degree of analytical skill as the one you see here. But we'll get to that in a minute. The ironic thing is that there actually was a good reason for thinking that Sin was going to win this match before this contest started. The weakest Sonic character in the 2003 stats is Tails, and the weakest FFX character is Yuna. Tails made a minor jump in popularity between 2003 and 2004, but even then, if Sin and Dr. Robotnik were at all comparable to Tails and Yuna, one could argue that Sin had the advantage despite Robotnik obviously having a bracket advantage going into the match. There was also the matter of Wily/Ultros. Assuming Robotnik was somewhat even with Wily in strength, asking Sin to be 15% stronger than Ultros wasn't that much of a stretch. I myself thought that this match would be close, but it would be Tidus/Shadow close in Sin's favor. Of course, knowing that Sin was already up for a tough road in the match, all hope of him actually winning went down the drain when the match picture came out and we saw Robotnik in all his glory versus a dorsal fin. Not that this took away from the fact that the entire board was in a win-win situation, because thanks to Tai's wonderful little spam topics every other day with insane predictions of Sin with 58% of the vote, even those who had Sin winning the match ended up rooting against him because no one wanted to be associated with an annoying spammer that not only spammed the board, but also kept botting AIM chats and mass marking people with alt accounts. When the match finally started, Robotnik flew out of the gate for 65% of the vote early, and though Sin eventually regained some of his footing, he did little to nothing to prevent Robotnik from steadily increasing his lead. Robotnik's percentage was slowly falling from the 65% he had initially, but he managed to build a lead of 2700 votes through the first 15 hours of the poll. Of course, this caused Tai to absolutely lose his mind. Not only did he attempt to rally votes from other websites singlehandedly (which is a fair strategy in these contests and is to be expected, so no shame there), but he took his loss this match in a worse way than virtually anyone else ever has. When most people make vocal picks that are wrong, they sit around and laugh with everyone else when the time comes to have their picks thrown back in their face. It's all part of the fun. I ate my crow with Magus's choke job in 2005 with a smile on my face, because that's just how these things go. The most famous example was Squall getting his flowers over Luigi in 2003. But not Tai, oh no. There is no having fun with this user. Rather than simply taking a joke lightheartedly, he decided to mark everyone's messages on a bunch of alts, then keep track of the messages that weren't deleted so he could archive them and run off to MBH and Message Detail 2 and spam the site mods personally. It was arguably the worst case of bad sportsmanship we have ever seen, and users like this are a large reason why back end moderation was reworked on GameFAQs. Marking messages with alts no longer boosts priority, and you'll actually get shadow banned from marking people if you try it these days (you can use the form, but it will never show up in the mod queue). And for the record, Tai and maplejet are and always were the exact same human being and he was *always* a troll. Site mods aren't allowed to reveal things like that, but I'm not a site mod. You're welcome. Lost in all of this was the fact that Sin truly did make this a Tidus/Shadow affair. He had little chance of coming back and winning, but he did turn a 2700 vote defect into a respectable 1900 vote loss. It makes you wonder what might have happened if Sin didn't have the worst picture of the contest, because knowing what we know now, all those people who had Sin winning the fourpack may very well have been screwed by one of the worst match pics we'd ever seen. Future Edit: On top of Sin getting screwed by his match picture despite having some very cool images in-game, Magic the Gathering made a Final Fantasy set in 2025 and official sources of art are allowed in match pictures. In an alternate timeline where this match was taken place after he appeared on Magic cards, Sin very likely gets a *much* better picture. ## Match Trends ## That Match Pic After the match pic came online and Ngamer realized that CJay had just killed his bracket, Ng took advantage of the general uproar on the board and created this image, calling it an alternative poster for *Sin City*. No one liked it, but *he* thought it was hilarious, so he didn't care! ### Other Nonsense The awful pic also resulted in one of the better topics of the season, when The Real Truth put up a thread called **Sin the Fin for the Win**. The original topic can be viewed at - "[Sin the Fin for the Win](http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/05Spring/05SinTheFin.html)" Some of the better replies: Yeah, let's toss Robotnik in the bin! \*kicks you in the shin\* Now, that's an interesting spin... Now I need some jin :(. This topic makes me grin. Robotnik has a weak chin. What % are you expecting for Sin? I bet 51% is his min. ## External Links - [Match Updates](http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2003&num=2) - [Oracle Match Results](http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SpC2k5&type=match&match=15) • **Previous Match**       • **Next Match**